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Emily H Klf

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| map-marker Houston, Texas

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Updated by user Apr 27, 2021

Company fixed the issue and I have been provided with full refund.

Original review Apr 16, 2021
I spoke to an associate a week ago and was scammed by Cydcor Retail and I am needing my $111 put back onto my card and the agreement reversed as well. Update: It has been 3 days since I have spoken with a representative who said he would see what he could do and getting me the $100 back and I'm still waiting, he said he will follow up with me as soon as he gets an answer.
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Clifford H Biw

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Scam don't think these people know anyone at at&t

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Sold directv in Cartersville Walmart after 4 weeks got E mail order canceled paid $35 no refund or explanation
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User's recommendation: Don't mess with these people SCAM

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Nikiya Epm

@Heather, I can shed some light to this. r/Devilcorp on Reddit.

Heather Z Zrw

Do you think there is even a contract allowing them in Walmart? Or the Tablets are programed by Cydcor?

Heather Z Zrw

Hello, I am currently investigating this company. Can you please provide additional information. Most specifically pay,

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Race C

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Do not trust these people they are scam artists

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I need a refund placed back into my account because one of your sales people lied and said I was able to get fiber optic internet through directtv where I live and directtv does not even offer internet where I stay I have already spoke with directtv but there is still a transaction that has been taken from my account from your company
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Guest

Those Cydcor 1099 contractors work on 100% commission, so it does not surprise me they would lie to a customer.

Anonymous

Agents offering service not avaible in the area

Agents came to the door and offered Direct TV(CenturyLink) and internet (AT&T) bundle. Listened to the entire presentation and decided to switch. Was supposed to get a call regarding the internet, never did. I was told that both tv and internet would be installed same day. As I sit here waiting, I call and find that the internet service through AT&T is not available in my area. Agents never said this and wasted a couple of hours of my time for nothing. If someone comes to your door offering anything for sale please verify who they work for. I was under the impression that I was dealing with CenturyLink/AT&T here in Las Vegas, but today find out it is CydCor. This company is not trustworthy.
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Guest

Fast rule: When dealing with strangers at your door selling something: 1. Never let them inside 2.

Never sign anything 3. Never give them money or banking information.

Anonymous

I worked at multiple cydcor ICL’s for over 3 yrs

I have read so many reviews since quitting Cydcor. Most people just didn’t want to work hard and write a bad review. I worked very hard, was successful, and am still writing a bad review.

Let’s touch on some key points here. Cydcor preys on young college graduates looking to find a “real job”. In fact if you interview an older person you will be told ahead of time they are “practice” and won’t be hired.. that’s if the older person happens to slip through the interview process. So that’s just... Discrimination.

Commissions are low. As a leader I averaged $1000 per week, but very few people do that. Most people make below minimum wage, which one can calculate doing a very simple math equation. High performers such as myself paid for recruiting, 2nd round interviews, and the owners personal paycheck. Was I valued and appreciated? No. You would think the rep making $1000/week and providing all the resources would get promoted to management first, but nope.

No work/life balance. Literal 70+ hour work weeks. Cydcor will become your life. If you want to take time off (even a day) you will be looked down upon and management will say you are not taking the opportunity seriously.

Ownership (at least for the first year) will be even more time consuming than leadership and assistant management. You will make less money than you did as a leader. Also depending on how sloppy your promotion to management was, you will pay your business expenses out of your personal money, leaving you more broke than the 5 leaders who moved with you. Which most of the time will all live with you in the same house or apartment.

Cydcor likes to woo people with their big clients in telecommunications and energy.. which is cool I guess. The lack of integrity with sales made me want to vomit, and of course the clients do not care because it’s free money for them. There are reps and owners that make solid sales, and there are reps and owners (most) who lie to sell more stuff and make more monies.

I also see all this stuff on how the biz is very cult like. During my time I kinda ignored all that, but now looking back it is very much like a cult.

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Guest

1. They only want young 20 something year olds because older people with life/work experience would realize right off the bat what a sham these companies are.

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The people running these different offices are NOT owners; they are managers. Cydcor Corporate has access to all bank accounts, calls all the shots, tells the managers what to do and can shut them down and take all monies at any time.

Heather Z Zrw

What location were you employed at? What energy company were you contracted to sell?

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Anonymous

Liers and scamers

Walmart has cydcor as a third party retailers in the stores. They have these young kids trying to sell you services for tv and internet from ATT. We told the two young guys we already had ATT. They asked how much we pay for it each month. We told them then they said the could cut the price down to around $90 a month. They charged my husband $35 as an application fee. Needless to say we call a call from ATT and the representative said that they could not process this order because my husband was already a customer and has a current account. So needless to say we are probably out $35 dollars. These young kids in the store will tell you anything just to sign you up. They said don't worry about the up coming bill. It will be taken care of with this new order for service. It is all a bunch of bulls...t
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Anonymous

SCAM- Do not work here

Company is a PYRAMID SCAM. They hype up and make young people believe they can become managers in a very short amount of time and will make a lot of unrealistic money.

When in fact, its only them who make money. They give you "perks" and then when you quit because you are deflated from making NO MONEY), they tell you, you OWE them money because they "fronted" it to you. You basically work for FREE. Then they threaten to file a police report on you because you didn't understand the BS "policy" and don't have ANY money.

I am sorry my kid got sucked into this. This is a tough life lesson but felt led to share to possibly save others for buying into this garbage

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Heather Z Zrw

What location did you work at? Was it an ICL?

Guest

No, it's not Fake News. The company does not pay you, and it is a total pyramid scheme... just search the company.

Heather Z Zrw
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Yes VERY true... The turnover is beyond comprehension.

Guest

This is fake news. I work for cydcor.

Making my way through the program. I’ve seen 3 people that personally worked with me make it to management.

Your kid sucked at the job that’s all. Teach that kid a work ethic

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The coveted promotion into “Ownership” of “your very own field office” happens AFTER qualifying as a undoubtedly manipulatable sheep-person. Read your new contract before those giddy signing hands call Grandma and tell her you’s a boss.

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In response to report #147****, I don't doubt you do work for Cydcor and your handler stood over you and made you write those positive comments while you were in your perm. state of disorientation.

Heather Z Zrw
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If you had any kind of work ethic you would not be defending this company.

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Bushra Twl

Did not deliver as promised

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Was in a Sam's store and was approached by a nice guy wanting me to switch to DirectTV. I had just looked online for deals with DirectTV so I listened to his pitch.

I was promised a $200 Sam's gift card if I switched to DirectTV. I gave some information and was given a phone number to follow up to schedule installation. Called about three weeks later and was now promised a $300 Sam's gift card. I agreed and it was installed.

Was given website to claim my $300 reward, after waiting 2 weeks. Was told there was no current offer of a Sam's $300 gift card. AT&T gave me a $200 Walmart gift card. After MANY phone calls, I was told that Cydcor will be reaching out to me and they will send a gift card.

I have no idea if that will happen; however, I now have information to file a consumer complaint with Illinois Attorney General if no additional gift is received. I actually signed up on the $200 promise; but because they LIED to me, I am going to pursue the matter.

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  • Getting a gift card
Cons:
  • I was lied to about the amount and type of card
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Guest

Do a search on Cydcor here and you will understand why you were given false promises.

Bushra Twl
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That's what I was doing when I came across this website. It seems they are very disreputable.

I cannot believe Sam's would allow them in their store or that DirectTV would connect with them.

But, we all know, $$$ is the bottom line. Who cares about honesty and reputation?

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Anonymous

Cydcor - Review in Staff category

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I'm going to begin this review by saying in no way shape or form am I disparaging my former manager, and coworkers, they were all good people, and quite a few of them have become some of my best friends. The people you meet at a cydcor office will be the only positive aspect of working here, and I sincerely mean that.

I'm only here to let everyone know of the dangerous, vampiric company that is cydcor. But unfortunately here in lies the first tactic Cydcor uses to brainwash someone into staying. By spending 6 days a week in one place, and if you genuinely enjoy working with the people there, it will force you to stay. After a while you will want to leave but it will way on your conscience to leave because you don't want to let your friends down.

But this is easy enough, if theyre real friends they won't be mad your leaving at all, cydcor just wants you to believe that you are a quitter, something is wrong with you. By forcing you to work six days a week cydcor alienates you from your friends and family, and some managers will go so far to tell you that anyone who doesn't support you, should be cut from your life. And some of the adamant koolaide drinkers will actually do that, which baffles me entirely. What cydcor doesn't tell you is that they don't care about you or your family, only the money you bring in, and in order to do that you need to be there 6 days a week, (about 50-60 hours).

Now this isn't a new development, but yes it is 100% commission. And despite popular belief, I have seen people, myself included, excel at this. Because despite all the other *** they spew out of their mouths, if you work hard you can make 2-3 sales a day. It's actually not hard at all, as long as you work hard.

But it is my sincere belief that this will never bring anybody the financial freedom that is constantly being oozed out of the mouths of every consultant and promoting owner in the business. It's actually quite the contrary, they're not giving you financial freedom, they're forcing financial dependence on you. Need money for gas? Better make another sale.

Need health insurance? Sorry, even though we make more than enough off of you, that's gotta come out of your pocket. Want to go to the National Conference/gathering of the cult? Come on down but you have to buy the plane ticket and pay for the room, and if you don't come you'll be scolded for it.

They want you to pay for everything so that it motivates you to make more sales, but all it's doing is pushing you closer and closer to financial destitution. One thing I will say about cydcor is it is not a pyramid scheme. At no point do you have to "but in" and at no point does a percentage of your commission go to anybody else. That money, how ever much or little it is, is always yours.

There is no scheme, all of the managers and consultants started in the field and I personally watched a coworker go from a new hire to manager. It is possible to do, but the question arises, do you want to? The answer is confidently no you do not. Despite cydcor making millions off of your little company a year, they will only provide you with a little financial help.

The money you make is not your's, it's the business's. Even your company is not yours, you don't even have power of attorney over the company. But you keep pumping your own money into it because you want to be like the consultants. So, It's not a pyramid it's a cult.

The consultants all seem like stand up people, they smile, they spend time with the commoners, they go out and drink with you at national conferences. But they're all actually pretty sad specimens of human life. I remember at a conference one of them said that another consultant was the godmother to her daughter. While a resounding aww rang out through the conference hall, I became disgusted and thought that was pretty pathetic.

What all these other mouth breathers failed to realize was that she was the godmother of her child because she's probably lost contact with her closest friends and family members because of this job. It's a pretty sad reality when the person you want to take care of your a child is a person you've known for 5-10 years and see on occasion 4-5 times a year.

The point I'm trying to make here is they're trying to tell you they're your family now, they're your friends, you don't need anybody else. Just work your life into the dirt, break up with your girlfriends, boyfriends, skip weddings and holidays, and dive on in headfirst to the most dangerous business cult you'll ever find.

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Guest

When you are a 1099 independent contractor, a company cannot dictate your work schedule. They cannot classify you as a contractor so they avoid paying hourly, OT and benefits, but treat you as a W2 employee.

The IRS and your state's Department of Revenue needs to know about this. The Labor Board will force them to backpay and hourly wage plus OT.

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Unfortunately it's not a 1099 position

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If you were working for 100 percent commission, which you stated you were, then you were a 1099 contractor. If they classified you as a W2 employee and were not paying you an hourly wage, then they are in violation of the law!

By FEDERAL law, a W2 employee MUST be paid at least the minimum wage. They can earn commission in addition to that, but they must be paid hourly as well.

Do you follow what I am saying? They can't say you are an employee just so they can control your hours but then only pay you commission.

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It's a w4 position

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Anonymous

Cydcor Work Experience Review

This company is a scam! I know you have probably seen it by noe but do not make the same mistake i made!

They coerce you into thinking you can make it to owning your own branch when in reality it is a lot harder than they let on! They have this cult mindset and wanted me to push my family and friends out because they were suspicious of everything! They even tried to get me to call off the wedding with my fiance because she didnt work there! It was a very bad set up!

I worked there for 4 weeks as an eager young mind in debt looking to make it big before i realized what exactly was going on with that company! They were lying and manipulating people like myself into believing they were the answer, when in fact they only hurt you! In my 4 weeks with them i never once saw a paycheck! Sure they promised that i would see one every week but i never recieved one for the 4 weeks of work i did.

It was easy to sell and i excelled at it! But i never once recieved a check from them!

This company is no company it is a cult! If you value family and friends like i do then you will not want to do this!

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Guest

i worked for Cydcor for 3 1/2 months. great learning, hard work.

got out and now i use some of the skills they taught me to make $5-10k month selling on my own terms. its a good BOOTCAMP for sales experience, so you can know you can do anything if you put your mind to it.

when its time to move to higher places its time to move forward to something better.

-Jp, fort worth tx

hey is there a forum or place i can meet up with other cydcor veterans and show them what i'm into to see if its right for them?

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There sure is! Just go to your local homeless shelter.

Guest

It seems like you're what you claim cydcor is

I've been working there for two months and I've made over $4000

They tell you during your interview that's it's strictly commission based and also performance based. So if you didn't get paid it's simply because you weren't making sales, so why don't you go on to a minimum wage job rather than ruin opportunities for others that are trying to grow

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Comprehension is vital when you read and then respond to a posting. The OP clearly states that sales were easy and he excelled.

Now think hard (but don't strain your brain), what does that tell you? It should tell you that this person MADE LOTS OF SALES but he was not paid! Why are you suggesting he work a minimum wage job? Is it because minimum wage jobs and door to door sales are all YOU are capable of?

Lol, we aren't all so as unfortunate as you, dear.

By the way, you may have made 4k in sales in two months, but how much of that amount ended up as commissions in your pocket? BE HONEST!

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$4,000 in two months is awesome . .

.. compared to my experience LOLOL. 'it's rough out there'. i hit 3rd place in the southwest region 3 weeks out of 14 i was there.

and half the time i was at least in the top 10. i only took home an average of probably $200-400 per week to live my life off of when i was there. Cydcor is awesome for BOOTCAMP in sales. don't stay there though.

i took my skills and applied them to selling Directv and Dish Network door to door in a certain easy way where i'm in a warm market and sales come so easily and frequently i make $5-10k month average only working 20-30 hrs. i'm taking an easy week off right now (8 days). i own a LEXUS HYBRID, i have plenty of time to enjoy my life. i even took a 28 day vacation to HAWAII last year.

all because i learned how to sell when i was at Cydcor, and then was smart enough to leave and make a ton more money.

anyone that has worked for Cydcor is family to me! YOU know we have something special in common.

call me up I LOVE YOU GUYS, i'll show you what i do and see if its right for you too. 817-938-****

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You posted your phone # on an international public website. Gee, aren't you smart.

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People who brag about material possessions are usually the ones with nothing.

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I didn't have to go to Cydcor bootcamp to learn how to slam the door in door to door peddlers' faces!

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If you worked 6 days a week you only made around 10 dollars before taxes. That's godawful.

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LOLOL, had that moment, i got a check for $36 something one time, and my manager (who was a really good guy though) looked at me and said his lowest check was for only $8 and some change one time. I worked hard and made my way back up to the top 10. and I was smart enough to leave Cydcor and make a TON more money applying my skills to working alone rather than my manager getting money off of me.

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Anonymous

Cydcor - Review in Staff category

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This company is basically a cult. They are all brainwashed.

They all sleep together and take advantage of young minds with the idea of frat-like lifestyle, earning big money and promotions- only to end up working excessive hours and being set up to fail. They also rip people off and the service is terrible. Do not use OR Cydcor.

Especially the one based out of Minnesota and lead by Trahern Trombetti. You will regret it.

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Heather Z Zrw

How is this STILL happening!!!

Guest

I worked for a ICL (Independent Corporate Licensee) I was expected to work long shift under pressure under the assumption that I would have my own office, I did retail in major corporations, I had no real personal life and felt like I was sold a dream.

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Anonymous

Aweful!!!!

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They are scammers. Say they work with directv and att. Neither company has heard of them. I have filed a lawsuit against them. Do not trust anyone at a walmart or a bestbuy claiming they work for directv or att. It is a major phising scam company. They charge your card $19.95 for a *** att account!!!!
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Anonymous

Cydcor llc scam

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On September 4th they charged my card 1995 don't know what the company is tried contacting the number off of the website number I got no one seems to know what's going on can't get my money back but their name is up under it with
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Guest

I hope you disputed charge with your bank.

Anonymous
map-marker Vilonia, Arkansas

Just got called in for an interview with ARMI (aka. 'Lesser Cydcor')

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So I applied this morning to ARMI Inc., in Little Rock, AR, and then proceeded to do some research after the fact (since in my experience it's simpler to just research after they contact you rather than trying to look things up for a job who never calls/e-mails you back).

Lo and behold, I come across this site and all these wonderful reviews exposing the company for what it really is. Changing their name every few years, misleading advertisements on job postings, not being upfront in interviews.. I'm PISSED.

So I'm gonna go in for that interview and act like I'm dumb as all *** right up until the point where they try to hire me and I'm gonna flip the script and call them out. Just to see their reaction. Honestly, I'm a college student, I have nothing better to do since Midterms are over. I don't care, I'm gonna be petty.

I'm so sick to my stomach that there are young adults out there like me who applied but didn't do their research and got roped into this scam? Who the *** does that to people? How do they sleep? I just don't understand how an entire company can be so vile?

Anyway y'all, what else do I need to know? I go the pyramid scheme ***, all the stuff I said above, and a few reviews from GlassDoor but there's gotta be more dirt I can raise *** up in there about. I need a good laugh, y'all, help a sista out!

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Guest

I had a second interview with them. It seems too good to be true, so I looked them up, if they offer me a position, I will turn them down as well as report them for fraud.

Guest

They tricked me.

I'll be quitting as soon as possible...The past 4 months has ruined me financially....

Sandow Businesses Solutions

Cleveland Ohio

A Cydcor company.

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Make sure you go to Glassdoor and leave a review so you can make others aware.

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I forgot to add, if you were a 1099 contractor and this company set your hours and told you when to work and how to work, you can file with the IRS. The reason being is that theywere treating you like an employee and not a contractor.

The IRS will financially penalize this company and force them to backpay you an hourly wage of at least minimum wage and overtime pay.

You can google search on IRS rules for independent contractors. Don't let them get away with it, if they were misclassifying your employment status (these companies generally do).

Guest

Website registration info from scamadviser:

Name: Reagan Myers

Organisation: ARMI INC

Street: 1215 Breckenridge Dr.,Suite 2

City: Little Rock

State: Arkansas Postalcode: 72205 () Country: United States United States Telephone: +1.501615**** United States() Phone Type: geographic : Little Rock, AR Southwestern Bell Email: United States Related to 26 sites These Sites May Also Be Related:- im-consultants.net kt-marketing.com bkbusinessconsultinginc.com eciri.com falconconceptsintl.com theskyinc.com vipcginc.com emergemarketinginc.com tmcwashington.com apexgroupconsulting.com oryxstl.com northwesternmarketingconcepts.com icgomaha.com new.flhorizon.com 23marketing.com enduremktg.com steeplechasepitt.com ic-promotions.com verityconcepts.net varipointpitt.com tpcknoxville.com

Guest

Their website is down... are they even still around?

Usually, these type places will change names often, due to the negative but honest postings about them online.

In fact, I wonder what their previous name was. If you knew that, you could find even more dirt on them.

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Anonymous

They're not called Devilcorp for nothing

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What can I say that hasn't already been said? It's just a dirt-bag marketing company that changes names every few years. Of course by marketing I mean sales and by dirt-bag I mean unscrupulous, unprincipled, and shameless.

Jut like The Black Death ravaged Europe, this amoral firm has spread it's cancer across the globe enslaving many brilliant souls. It's guilty of horrible business practices and is responsible for much grief and suffering.

These guys are the black sheep of the business world. Anything they touch gets complaint after complaint and there are thousands of them. If getting complaints and having a lousy reputation were an Olympic sport, Cydcor would be on the podium every four years.

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Cydcor is a rapidly expanding corporation, which means more exploitation disguised as a management opportunity for supposedly more people.

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Worked at one of their offices for 2 years around 2013 and 2014 as one of the top salespeople and trainers on the way to assistant management. Valuable skill sets learned there but a lot of "wait and see" loaded with uncertainty of whether anything amazing as promised was going to happen. If you plan on working there, do it for the learning experience, not for the money or the management opportunity. There are some campaigns that they have where you can earn a decent commission, but that should not be your focus. I stayed during the worst of times where the market dropped significantly because I saw it as an opportunity to fight with others looking to succeed even in times of desperation. I never got to see a new manager open their first office in the 2 years I was there. You will learn a great system to develop a tough skin, learn how to impulse and close sales, and network and build relationships. But don't rely on the job to be your ticket into business ownership.

The toughest part of the job is not the sales. You will learn how to become great at sales and develop business savvy skills in less than 3 months working there, which is awesome. The toughest and most un-humbling part of the job, and also the most important, is recruiting fresh, new, young blood. You literally have to be a vampire in order to be a great manager there. I understand and have respect for the need to smile and be enthusiastic when it comes to being an effective leader to influence others to grow both personally and professionally. But I eventually learned that it was more necessary (profitable for the manager) to use your smiles and enthusiasm to be deceptive by not saying certain things in order to recruit and keep more people, and the management opportunity is really just an opportunity to learn more things of what not to say.

The business depends on quantity over quality. I don't make excuses. I choose to be successful and create a lot of business even in 90 degree weather, 3 feet of snow, 6 days a week, 56 hours-plus a week, and taking extra time to coach and train others... but not to become a professional dream-seller who looks at people as numbers rather than actual people. And management relies on keeping corporate trainers there in order to attract new recruits by telling them that this and that is what is needed to become a manager. The real, transparent question for you to ask yourself is whether it is right for you to bank your success on telling people they will make it to management by doing x, y, and z just to recruit and keep those 95% of people on board in order to get yourself to management and keep your office alive by continuously repeating this outstanding management system.

Oxymoronic-Metaphors for the job:

Slavery: maintain a positive attitude picking cotton so others will follow you and don't complain so that you can secure your own future and take a nice big vacation on a fancy resort and get the house ma was always dreaming about.

Marriage: All you got to do is get married to the business, be fully committed not just-interested, and you will live a great life. If you agree, sign here.

Kool-aid: and lots of it!

Us vs. Them = We are wealthy entrepreneurs vs. The rest of the country are poor-minded employees... Are you kidding me? No one in Cydcor is a business owner or entrepreneur. They are all employees, including the managers and consultants.

Drug dealers get more respect: at least drug dealers know the absolute risks of success by staying and growing in the drug business.

You can be the next Michael Jordan... of Cydcor! (How Michael Jordan didn't give up amidst the bevy of failures and obstacles against him and neither should you as somehow his dream of becoming the best is the same as your aspiration to eventually run a business exploiting people for Cydcor).

Cydcor managers and leaders advise: "Read books from Dale Carnegie and Napoleon Hill." I love when pseudo-business people laude this as part of their collective library reference to entrepreneurship when the driving points of these superb success-authors emphasize helping others, having integrity, developing real relationships, and maintaining a great reputation -- all beautiful characteristics that Cydcor misrepresents in order to manipulate others. Along with those authors, read "Choose Yourself!" by James Altucher. It talks about how corporations actually don't want you to grow or succeed because you will expect more rewards for your newfound creativities. It is less profitable for corporations when you become increasingly empowered because you may choose yourself in order to break free from corporate-mentality, and, I would add, multi-level business corporations like Cydcor acting like you need them to become financially independent. The thing is that if you're going to work for a corporation, wouldn't it be nice to know in plain-view that you're working for a corporation??

Maybe the top consultants of Cydcor got in while it was hot, and are now stuck there trying to keep making sense of what they thought they started. I think they know what they have become but have no other option because the money-making potential in staying with Cydcor is more feasible than trying to risk applying these business skills as a truly independent entrepreneur elsewhere. But now, it's become increasingly a corporation and a prime example of 99%-employees legally making below minimum wage and living below the poverty line. Cydcor started out over 20 years ago helping local businesses. It built enough reputation to be of interest to be exploited by Fortune-500 CORPORATIONS. So, Cydcor is an exponential by-product of bigger corporate systems building even more profit by not having to payout benefits and minimum wage or worry about the inevitably high turnover rates that affect recruiting costs.

I looked into the production payouts of other offices, along with my own office at the time. This is just an example of how Cydcor offices looks at its employees: it is better to have 100 employees making $5 an hour per rep average than 50 employees making $8/hr/rep average. Why? Because Cydcor gets more money with more people regardless of quality. It's like the movie the Matrix where Morpheus shows Neo the harvesting fields where people are no longer born but created.

Henry Ford was smart to surround himself with smarter and more talented people. However, if you want to become rich working at Cydcor, you will have to surround yourself around 95 replaceable robots and 5 key players. This also means becoming comfortable with the uncomfortability of constantly hiring and keeping people by making false-promises because after 3 months most of them won't stay based on the low pay or lack of growth. Also, you must empower at least 5 key players to do more of your dirty work.

If you are in this right now, my advice for you is to think for yourself about what you really want out of your own life. For most of you, this will be hard to think about because Cydcor somehow aligned itself with your personal dreams in life. You are exploitable by Cydcor and/or becoming more exploitable once Cydcor has got you on the following:

1.) You've been there longer than 3 months because you've convinced yourself that this is your true calling in the wilderness of the lack of trying to figure out what your true calling is.

2.) You don't want to do things the conventional way and you want to be an individual.

3.) You want to be the superstar who proved all the naysayers, family members, and past and present friendships wrong.

4.) You want financial freedom and should decide to stop making excuses of why you can't get it, thus your need to stick it out through Cydcor rather than be a loser who quits.

If through Cydcor you want to get better at sales, training, and coaching and developing others, then network with people doing better at those things and keep working at it. If you are already doing great but somehow aren't getting the opportunities you should have earned, look at why the key players are getting more opportunities than you and figure out if it's something you can develop. Or figure out what the managers are looking for. Be weary of what the managers claim are setting you back. You will find that their claims are to maintain more control over you by putting pressure on the weaknesses you are already very aware of. A true leader focuses on your strengths and the greatness you can become. Is your manager attempting to do this with you or only pointing out your weaknesses while helping the one or two key players in the office?

If you are considering trying direct sales through Cydcor or a company that sounds like this, you will get hired as long as you dress decent and speak proper English. There aren't many barriers to getting hired. What it comes down to for you to make good commission is how hard you work, not your God-given talents or stellar resume or educational background. In that sense, it is nice to know there will always be sales jobs available that are willing to teach you sales success and business skills. But you may just want to keep track of what your real goals are in life in case you get sucked into something you'll soon find harder and harder to leave.

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13 comments
Guest

I was a a top rep and almost 6 months of leader of the weeks and etc no interviews and other managers shun me when i went to their office wasted time and lost love

Guest

They are evil people preying on young and desperate newly grad kids. They have no morals and shame..

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i work for a cydcor office right now on the quill campaign. it blows my mind that people are actually surprised by the fact that these claims are true.

from the first week i worked there i realized that they were spending just as much time selling us as we are selling quills products. of course its not the most scrupulous company, the management system is *** there are people in my office that have been there for 4+ years and they are still only "leaders" which is the promotion they received the first month they worked there.

the real deal is this though. if you can't find anything else as a dude who just graduated college -its a paycheck at the end of the week and its an excuse to put on a tie every morning and impress your dad.

take the job, learn the skills while someone is paying you to do it (even if it is a small amount) and keep sending out your resume until you find something better. its valuable experience, you'll step far outside your comfort zone, you'll learn how to talk to every type of person in almost every type of situation and if you do well and work hard theres a chance you can make 1000 a week if your gangster with this ***. thats rare, i haven't done it yet, my paychecks suck actually and I'm getting ready to quit, but not until i find something else. and its better than working at a restaurant which is what i did through college.

here are my three main pieces of advice for anyone with this opportunity in front of them:

1) pay attention to what goes on in the office, make them think your taking the bait hook line and sinker and you'll get treated well - most likely, your boss will pull you aside at the end of the week and say something like "i see something in you, you have the right mentality for this" and give you like 50 bucks extra on your check - those are classic indoctrination techniques, *** that child rapist and psycho dictators do - they tell you your special and give you a treat and then ask you for something in return - he's going to want you to sell more and its going to seem awesome because that makes you more money too unless you do less than 1500 in sales for the week - because they want you on the full 28% commission (quill) because if you take the base pay (400/week if you open 4 accounts and do at least 1000 in sales in the week) they actually have to pay you more versus the amount you sold. if you do exactly 1000 in sales (like i try to do every week, lol) than its actually 40% - which leads into my next point

2) TAKE THE BASE PAY, if thats an option for you, no ones first week is stellar and thats the racket these dudes are pulling - they want to give you less versus the amount your selling to incentivize you to sell more. the more you sell the more they make and the less they have to give you in relation to what your selling.

if your doing less than 1500 in production a week consistently it doesn't make any sense for you to switch to the full commission.

work the system, get your money, get a new job and get the *** out!

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3) (for quill campaigners) *** is actually a lot cheaper when you apply your codes and what not - sell *** to your family and friends but google it first because not everything is cheaper - and get your leaders mobile log in codes so when you quit you can still get the coupon generator! lol

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But that is the main beef people have with Cydcor: it is NOT a paycheck at the end of the week! And, if your dad is impressed at you putting on a suit and tie going to work at a non-job everyday, well your dad isn't very smart.

People, don't waste your time on Cycor. It is better to have NO job than to mess with this D2D, 100% commission cr@p. Use your time and gas money and focus on getting a REAL job with REAL pay and REAL benefits and REAL opportunity. Make getting a job your full-time job!

You are better off at a restaurant then with any D2D, peddler *** You can learn how to talk to anyone just running a cash register and you will at least get guaranteed hourly pay for it! Don't get wrapped up peddling *** that will take all your time and leave you unavailable for actual job interviews with REAL companies. I don't know about anyone else, but I would want more for myself then some lame non-job hawking cr@p no one wants! Oh and don't forget, since you are a 1099 contractor, you will be responsible for ALL taxes at the end of the year!

That's right.

When all your friends are getting refund checks, your broke-@ss owes the govt. money!

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If you go to Ripoff Report and search for DEVILCORP, you will find in the rebuttals links to some 20-25 news reports, government rulings and video footage showing how these people do business. Shame on them.

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Watch out for people wanting to connect. It's probably corporate trying to find out who you are.

Anyone who can write a post like yours would be considered a threat. I apologize to Micha if my assumption is incorrect.

Avyan Vqe
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Thanks for looking out, 009!

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I wish I could know the author of this, because they have hit every single one of my "corporate issues" on the head... and I love the books by Carnegie and Altrucher.

I even follow Altrucher on LinkedIn. I'm interviewing with 3 different companies in the Boston area- all subsidiaries of Cydcor and all have apparently done exactly what you've mentioned here. On the plus side, I've been unemployed for a year and in the last 2 weeks I've had more interviews with these types of companies than any other. I'm prepared to put in the work with these people because it's the only way to be properly trained these days.

Altrucher is absolutely correct in that Corporate America does not want to see their people truly succeed and thereby do not train or set their employees up for success. I truly thank the author of this for letting me know what I'm really getting into. That's all I've ever wanted is to know what I'm walking into so that I'm in the right frame of mind for the environment. It so stinks that Cydcor feels the need to be so clandestine about who they are and who works for them (and how they operate).

I just cannot believe how many companies I've tried to work for (with the exact same intentions for my career as the author here) that feed off of my dreams and try to crush my dreams so that I'll become a minion for them. There are no corporate ethics anymore. None. It's a dog-eat-dog world now and it seems that the "people helping people" aspect of business is just a sales pitch now- nobody actually believes in it or wants to create that kind of positive environment.

If the author of this post ever reads this, I hope they find me on LinkedIn. I try to connect with people of like mindsets so that we can propel each others careers and use our various skill sets to help one another in a world in which 'help' is a fallacy.

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Cydcor is an American company. The company specializes in outsourced face-to-face sales and is the leading customer acquisition company in the United States. Cydcor is headquartered in Westlake Village, California. The company was founded in 1994. Cydcor operates its offices all over the United States and Canada. The company provides its face-to-face sales campaigns to expand product sales of their customers. Cydcor serves many companies that are ranked on the list of Fortune 500 including the leading companies in telecommunications industry and retail.

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