Cydcor - Account Manager (Financial Analyst at other franchises)
Creepiest thing I've experienced in my 22 year life. Loss of nearly $300 for new slacks, shoes, and gas money to get to the two interviews and my first day of work once I was hired. I knew this was a door to door sales job, I was ready to work hard for little pay, but too much wasnโt right with the company. Elaborations below, this sort of stuff isn't for the faint of heartโฆโฆ
RED FLAG 1.
The "CEO" of the "office" seemed like a sort of social shark, I don't know how else to put it... very Woody Harrelson-ish, with expensive 3 piece suits and a *** entry-level Mercedes as if they were putting on a show for applicants. Weird vibes from the guy as if they dressed a *** dealer in nice clothes and gave him a back story to regurgitate.
I use โCEOโ and โofficeโ in quotes as they try to deceive you in all lectures, suggesting an image where the company is independent, the man in the 3 piece suit who is interviewing you is its owner, and the company as a lone entity is worth a few million dollars.
RED FLAG 2.
As stated in blog articles about Cydcor, they do indeed have a secretary at the front literally calling applicants for interviews as you're in the CEO's office interviewing (you can hear the pitch they gave you over the phone word for word through the wall). The CEO's office is most likely connected to the front office so you can't see how run down the back of the cheap-rent office is.
NOTABLY as mentioned in the title, the branch I interviewed at had different titles for the sales position, along with other differences: there was no mention of working weekends, and there were 2 in-office interviews instead of 1 in-office interview (which all seem unusual but they have to be constantly changing their practices to fool people). They could reel you into the weekends later; as the โCEOโ tried to tell me it was only an 8 AM to 5 PM sort of deal which I called him on immediately in the interview, in front of the other applicant.
RED FLAG 3.
EVERY other applicant I ran into in my interviews was hired- except for a single mother with a family to support; I don't think he had the heart to roll the dice on ruining her life combined with the fact that at 30 years old she was potentially far too smart about how the world worked to be fooled by his sketchy puppet show.
โฆand that was the second interview. I did the FIRST one with my fly open accidentally and they called me back- which should have been the biggest red flag of them all but how was I to know if they noticed or not?!?!
After the second interview I did NOT get a call back, although they told me that theyโd call me before 7 PM that day even if it was a no. Retrospectively, I was far too educated to be in their demographic and as such they knew Iโd leave after the first day and post this novel of a review across all social media once I finally put my finger on what was wrong with the company (Thatโs another thing, they all call it โThe Companyโ like some *** cult because they donโt want to differentiate or delineate between Cydcor and the franchise/fake front with the fake name that they present to new employees).
All these red flags so far, BUT I am tired of living with my parents and applying for jobs; it seemed like a Godsend to an impatient young recent college graduate second guessing his forte in science. I called the next morning, at which time the โCEOโ claimed that they tried calling me last night but it wouldnโt go through (a lie) and that they wanted me to come in in a week to start.
RED FLAG 4.
Okay now- I am no sort of impressive person or superior to anyone else; I mean for me to go to two interviews and one day of work before finally convincing myself that I was being thrown for a loop speaks volumes of me in a negative way on a multitude of levels. BUT THESE OTHER KIDS ON THE FIRST DAY OF WORK WERE SOMETHING ELSE. I mean wow. I truly do not think I'd seen such a large group of people of this persuasion since walking past the special education room in high school, and I mean that as no offense to anyone or their family members.
They all seemed to have ADHD, were younger than me (Iโd guess 18 years old, most of them were only high school graduates if that), and I was the only one writing anything down or paying attention to the CEOโs lecture (it was my first day, I guess they give the same lecture every day cuz the turnaround is so terrible).
Bottom line is that Iโve had a few jobs in engineering firms and hospitals- and from that I knew instantly that none of these people were working caliber human beings, even though some force of God dressed them all in two piece suits (I wore khakis and a button down with a tie; I cannot afford a suit) โฆonce again going back to my point that they somehow put on a โshowโ for you to make you think thereโs some real money trickling down.
RED FLAG 5.
Going back to the previous reviews, older reviews on glassdoor talk of insurmountable sex scandals between the "CEOs" and their field salesmen and secretaries, along with additional coworker affairs- all fruit chunks in an eerie, cult-like yogurt of an atmosphere.
I walk in for the first interview and make friends with the secretary- it was obvious that she banged the CEO for his job, it was just uncannyโฆ Iโm terrible at social things so I cannot describe this chemistry in words. Subtle and *** maybe. No ring on her finger, she was physically attractive, and their chemistry was justโฆ yuck. Apparently they recognized that I was suspicious, so on the second interview she was wearing a ring and talking to me about her husband repeatedly... Once again they put forth quite an effort to perform a show for applicants.
I walk in for my first day and find one girl I interviewed with who had colored hair, another guy who started at the beginning of that week who was heavy with a big beard and really quietโฆ along with 4 others who were transfers. This was immediately confusing to me, as they said they had not sold these office supplies but cable instead (Cydcor wasnโt mentioned until the first powerpoint).
A social ceremony was performed before the lecture, where you were to stand around talking casually, but in reality the transfers approached us and tired to make us feel comfortable. Like a *** Stepford Wives sort of thing. PEOPLE DONโT GET ALONG AT WORK- ITโS LIFE. But this bunch was acting like the entire summer camp counselor staff when theyโre in front of the kids.
RED FLAG 6: GOING DOOR TO DOOR.
Some Cydcors sell cable to businesses. Some sell phone service. Ours sold Quill office supplies.
So say it with me now:
YOU DONโT NEED A SALESMAN TO GET CABLE FOR YOUR BUSINESS, YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF ONLINE.
YOU DONโT NEED A SALESMAN TO GET PHONE SERVICE FOR YOUR BUSINESS, YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF ONLINE.
YOU DONโT NEED A SALESMAN TO GET OFFICE SUPPLIES FOR YOUR BUSINESS, YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF ONLINE.
I have a friend with a real sales job, he sells refurbished plastic oil drums in bulk to companies.
So say it with me now:
YOU _DO_ NEED A SALESMAN TO GET A BUNCH OF REFURBISHED PLASTIC OIL DRUMS FOR YOUR BUSINESS, YOU _CANNOT_ DO IT YOURSELF ONLINE.
I now hope that, before we go on, you understand how this is nothing more than a Vemma Energy Drink sort of fake business plan, where a product that doesnโt really fit into a business is tacked on to a pyramid scheme structure as an afterthought in order to make the business legal as far as the federal government is concerned.
If it wasnโt for all of the above stuff, Iโd be totally fine with selling office supplies door-to-door for low pay- I like to think I am humble and try to work hard, I actually used to wash dishes at restaurants in high school. TWO THINGS I learned in the field kept me from going back my second day though.
First- Cydcorโs client (cable, internet, office supplies) or Cydcor themselves take the account away from the employee who established the account after 6 weeks- this means that the salesman only gets their residuals for a period of time- if the residuals stayed so would I; it would be a real sales job with potential for exponential pay which would balance out the meager commission. They do not stay though, in a vain attempt to keep you motivated to climb up their structured ladder with unrealistic promotion goals.
Second- The office supplies from Quill were not less expensive than Staples, and were more expensive than Sams Club or Costco. Despite this, the salesman training me went into 44 businesses that day and tried to lie to each of them. One woman called him out on it as she had just bought her paper the day before- in response, this salesman of Cydcor for 3 years, was baffled as to what to do besides ask her twice to confirm that the cheaper price was not a special sale price. First, I canโt lie to people, second, trying to sell something which has no benefits is a waste of time.
Reason of review: Not as described/ advertised.
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
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Wow, did we work at the same place? This sounds exactly like the place I worked except I was there for a few months.
The biggest red flag to me was the fact that the much better salesmen were all struggling to pay there bills. I could only think, "if they can't make any money, how can I?"
As a current employee of Cydcor, I have never ran into these things. The fortune 500 company I'm currently working a campaign for, is a legit campaign and literally the BOTTOM line employee who does the BARE minimum makes sales enough to support themselves.
Did you make it to an opportunity meeting?
Where they explain the company? The fortune 500 company we represent let's us take almost 50% off the going rate for what we're selling, so I don't know what office, or campaign you were on, but that sounds like a *** ICL (If you stuck around long enough to find out what that means.)
this is the most amazingly truthful review of the company and the offices attached that I have ever read. good job
This review is paid by someone
No, it's not. But nice try. Now, go fish.
Are you ***? Just because you weren't able to *** it you post a long boring inaccurate post of garbage on this slandering the company?
I worked for this company in 2008, I almost made it to Assistant manager, and I had a GREAT office downtown Brampton ON. My ICL and owner of the office was Kyle Bardsley. I was coached by GREAT people, I learn A LOT that MAKES me the salesman and person I am today. YES its door to door and NO i didnt know prior but I COULD *** it.
Sales isnt for everyone. Someone who graduated from college for science probably wouldnt have a clue on what sales actually is. Not everyone can hang. But the fact you got on here to TRY and slander and discourage people who may be interested or have an interview is ridiculous.
Everything I know about Sales comes from THIS company. Harry rosen told me they prefer my experience from THIS company rather than Moores and Tip Top Tailors. That should tell you A LOT. You're a ***.
You can do MANY things online but why are people still going IN STORE? You can use a credit card and its cheaper to call uber. Why are people STILL using taxi? One reason ***.
THERE IS A DEMAND. Get a life you loser. If sales isnt for you, dont try to dissuade people from a job and experience. I owe this company A LOT for teaching me how to be a better person.
How to motivate. How to lead. How to encourage and uplift people. How to pay attention.
How to SELL. How to REMAIN positive in NEGATIVE situations. THAT, my dim witted friend IS *** PRICELESS. And you wish this was a fake response or someone paid me to do this.
I havent worked for the company since 2008, when their ONLY campaign was Rogers. I STILL have my leadership pin I won for best Leader in my region for 2008. Save your ***. Door to door Cold sales DEFINES AND SHAPES a salesman.
No one can ever tell me *** different. Eff you and your weak review.
Dear Anonymous,
1. It's not slander if it's true.
2.
Are we to believe that someone who hasn't worked for the company in eight years has just appeared, out of the blue, to defend it?
You people need some new tricks. Insted of sitting around posting lies about your company, think about treating people with respect. Even if it doesn't work out, they'll leave with a smile and be less likely to warn others about your joke of a job. Also, consider cutting down on stealing from your employees.
You guys are known for that.
On second thought, keep doing what you're doing. Your post will be most helpful to anyone seeking truth because it shows just how intelligent, polite and decent Cydcor is.
It looks like it was written by an ex-***. Where were you the last eight years?
Hey my dim-witted friend: slander is SPOKEN! Libel is WRITTEN.
TRUTH is an absolute defense against any claims of libel / slander / defamation.
I also want to point out to you that this Kyle person was NOT an owner. He was a branch manager. True business owners do NOT have bosses.
Kyle had/has bosses and they sit in the corporate offices. The third thing I would like to point out is that no one who posts their experiences is trying to deliberately sabotage someone else's lifelong dream to be a door to door nuisance and street beggar. No, these people are simply trying to share their experiences of being taken advantage of. Ultimately, the decision whether to try working a 100% commission only job, pestering people in residential neighbourhoods and businesses is entirely up to the individual.
Personally, I could care less what others do, as long as it does not negatively affect me or mine. Besides, we all know some people are knuckleheads and have to learn the hard way. I also recognize some people are highly uneducated, have criminal backgrounds, etc and for them, a door to door sales gig may be the only thing they can do (I am talking not just your company but Smart Circle, Kirby, Scentura, Filter Queen, Rainbow, etc). I feel sorry for those people.
Are you perhaps one of them? If so, no wonder you so passionately defend your sales slob job; you have some sense of professional dignity (GOOD FOR YOU!) and I can see how it stings to hear someone put down the only employment you were able to find. Which leads me to: this is really not employment, not in the traditional sense. See, you weren't a W2 employee, you were a 1099 contractor.
Did you know that most state laws mandate that an independent contractor sets their own work hours and may not be compelled to attend unpaid meetings? My dim-witted friend, please share with the class how many times you were able to set your own hours and pick and choose which meetings you were going to attend? Also, I would love to hear how much money you had to pay Uncle Sam at the end of the year, since 1099 contractors are responsible for paying ALL their own taxes. How did it feel watching your gainfully employed friends and family members get fat refunds while you owed?!
Finally, I would like to say Eff you and your weak review.
Got it? :-)